(last updated 18 August 2022)
Born at Carngham in Victoria, Alfred and Jane Cheeseman's youngest daughter, Rosina Olive married John George Tulloch (1889-1936), a sawmiller, at St Andrew's Anglican Church at Beaufort on 31 December 1913. Their wedding certificate shows that Rose was then a spinster living at Beaufort and John a bachelor whose normal abode was Warburton in Gippsland. His parents were Scottish-born George Tulloch (1846-1915), a saw miller, and Annie McLeod (1850-1930) who were married at Launceston in Tasmania in 1870 and had twelve children between then and 1890. Rose and John's marriage was witnessed by Rose's sister Ellen Frances Cheeseman, Mary Bailey and George Krick (Rose and Ellen's cousin-in-law). Although no doubt tinged with sadness over the recent death of Jane Elizabeth, the 'pretty wedding', as it was described by the correspondent to the Ripon Shire Advocate seemed to be a happy, even a joyous occasion:
As the bridal party entered the church the bridal hymn was sung by the choir. The groom was supported by Mr Ralph Cheeseman as best man and Mr George Krick as groomsman. The bride who looked charming and was given away by her father, and attended by the Misses Nellie Cheeseman and Mary Tulloch as bridesmaids was attired in a lovely gown of ivory silk muslin ... She wore the usual wreath and veil and a handsome chain bangle, the gift of the bridegroom, and carried a striking bouquet of scotch heath ... [After the wedding ceremony] Mr Cheeseman entertained a numerous company of guests at the wedding breakfast and subsequent social evening at the Societies Hall where toasts were drunk and hearty congratulations given and acknowledged amid much good natured merriment. The travelling dress was a saxe blue coat and skirt, tugel hat trimmed with white marguerites. Presents were numerous and costly.
Rose and John lived away from Beaufort after their marriage, initially in the Melbourne suburb of Richmond, where John worked as a police constable, then Warburton in Gippland and finally at Alexandra near Lake Eildon in central Victoria where John died in 1936. According to his death notice published in the Alexandra and Yea Standard on Friday 24 July 1936, he was aged 46 years, 'was formerly employed at the mills in Rubicon Forest, and had been in ill-health for some time. He leaves a wife and family of two'. The electoral rolls show that after John's death, Rose moved back to Melbourne where she lived - for a time at Richmond and later Sunshine in Melbourne's west - until her own death in 1969. Her ashes are interred in the Rose Garden of the Altona Memorial Park Cemetery. Rose and John had one daughter and one son who, as detailed below, have provided them with six grandchildren, 14 great grandchildren and at least 15 great great grandchildren.
One of a number sent to us by Jenny Tapungao, this photo was probably taken at John and Rose's home at
East Warburton in Gippsland sometime in the 1920s (L/R): John Tulloch, Jean Tulloch (standing on the tree stump)
Rose Tulloch nee Cheeseman holding John Tulloch jnr and Benjamin Herbert Cheeseman (Rose's older brother).
Probably taken at East Warburton in the late 1920s, (L/R): Isobel Madeleine ('Madge') Kent nee Wills (Rose's niece and
eldest daughter of Alice Amy Wills nee Cheeseman), Rose Tulloch, Jean Tulloch and probably Madge's husband,
Doren Roland Kent (1899-1975) who she married in 1930.
Rose on the right with Alice and Alfred Cheeseman and their youngest son Alfred John ('Freddie') Cheeseman.
As noted above, Rose and John Tulloch had one daughter and one son who, as detailed below, have provided them with six grandchildren, 14 great grandchildren and at least 15 great great grandchildren.
1. Annie Jean Elizabeth Tulloch (1915-97) was born at Richmond in Melbourne and married Albert Ernest (Ern) Brown (1907-66) in 1936. Born at the Gippsland mining town of Walhalla, Ern was one of eight children of Albert Joseph (Bert) Brown (1879-1942) and Lydia Anne Ford (1877-1952) who were married there in 1904. According to Scott Brown-Sarre's 'Brown-Sarre' family tree on Ancestry, Bert Brown was born at Maldon in Victoria in 1879, the youngest of ten children of Samuel Dagley alias John Brown (1819-1906), and his second wife/partner, Louisa Elizabeth Bosswell nee Macklan/Macklin (1834-97).
Born in Oxfordshire in 1819, Samuel was 22 years old when he was tried at the Buckinghamshire County Assizes for horse stealing and sentenced to 10 years transportation to van Diemen's Land. He embarked from Plymouth on the convict ship 'Susan (2)' and arrived at Hobart Town on 24 Jul 1842. While in Tasmania Samuel married an Irish woman and fellow convict, Mary Gibbons (1815-88), at Launceston in 1848. Three years later they moved to Victoria where Samuel purchased land at Eltham and worked as a market gardener. In around 1860 Samuel walked out on Mary and went to live at Maldon near Bendigo. Accompanying him was a married woman, Louisa Elizabeth Boswell nee Macklan/Macklin (1834-97), who had walked out on her husband and their five children. Sometime over this period Samuel adopted the alias 'John Brown' perhaps as a means of hiding the fact he had deserted his first wife. Samuel/John and Louisa Brown had ten children in and around Maldon before moving to Temora in the Riverina district of NSW where Louisa died in 1897. Samuel Dagwell aka John Brown died at nearby West Wyalong in 1906. Both the 'Brown-Sarre' and Megan Stuart's 'Streader Beddie Family Tree' on Ancestry, tell us that Ern's mother, Lydia Anne Ford, was born at Llanelly, a former goldmining town located between Bendigo and Dunolly. Her parents both came from England, her father, Alfred William Henry Ford (1834-1921), from Somerset and her mother, Elizabeth Ann Murray Streader (1856-1912), from Birmingham in Warwickshire. They were married at Maiden Town near Walhalla in 1876 and had eight children between then and 1886.
Jenny Tapungao tells us that shortly after his birth in 1879, Samuel and Louisa's youngest son, Albert Joseph (Bert) Brown - pictured on the right - was adopted by his Aunt Sarah and uncle Peter Sarre and later used the surname Brown-Sarre. She adds that some of his descendants have retained Brown-Sarre as their surname while others called themselves Brown. Both Scott Brown-Sarre and Megan Stuart's trees on Ancestry include some Brown 'family notes' which tell us that after their marriage at Walhalla, Bert and Lydia Brown/Brown-Sarre first lived at West Wyalong in the Riverina region of NSW where Bert worked at the True Blue Mine and their eldest son, Frank Brown (1904-68) was born. They were back at Walhalla for the birth of their second son, Albert Ernest Brown, in 1907 before moving to Granya, located on the Murray arm of Lake Hume to the north of Tallangatta. Their next three chidren - Louisa, Lydia Ellen (Nell) and Thelma Brown - were all born at Granya. While there Bert also acquired a 'share in a gold mine which came good, he put the money into cattle, but the mine petered out and the 1913-1914 big drought came'. This led Bert to travel to West Warburton in Gippsland where his brother Samuel Brown lived and where Bert sought work in the timber industry. Lydia meanwhile was left to sell their house and remaining livestock at Granya, pack up their possesions and, together with her five children and dog Tinker, travel by train from Tallangatta to Melbourne and then on to Warburton to join Bert.
Originally shared by Marjorie Brown, this photo, along with the others in this section, is from the 'Brown-Sarre' family tree on Ancestry.
It was taken in 1914 probably at Granya and is of Lydia Anne Brown/Brown-Sarre nee Ford and her and Albert Joseph's first five children.
The Brown 'family notes' also provides support for Jenny Tapungao's understanding of the origins and use of the Brown/Brown-Sarre surnames although they also confuse matters by referring to 'Larre' rather than 'Sarre'. According to the notes, while at Granya, the family was known as 'Larre' because 'they were among the Hart and Williams families which included Bert's aunts, 'Maria Hart and Sarah Larre his adoptive mother' (the electoral rolls show a Maria Hart and Sarah Sarre were living in the Tallangatta region over this time). At Warburton, the notes continue, 'the name Brown had to be taken instead of Larre as they had been known in Granya . . . It must have been awkward at times, remembering Frank, Ernest and Louisa had been going to school in Granya under the name Larre, now they must answer to Brown at West Warburton School'. Although still to be confirmed, we think Sarah's husband was Peter Rouget/Rushe Sarre, who had died at Northcote in Melbourne in 1905. His death notice in the Melbourne Age tells us that a Peter R. Sarre, 'beloved husband of Sarah Sarre, late of Walhalla, aged 68', died in the Royal Melbourne Hospital and was interred in the Northcote Cemetery on 9 January 1905. The Victorian index of bdms informs us Peter's second name was Rushe which was his mother's maiden name. His father was said to be Thomas Sarre. The same source shows a Sarah Macklen married Peter 'Sares' in Victoria in 1863.
Albert Joseph (Bert) Brown/Brown-Sarre died on 26 March 1942. According to the Victorian index of bdms he was then 62 years old, had been born at Moreland in Melbourne and died at Prahran. His father was said to be John Brown and his mother Louisa 'Machlin'. Bert's death notice, published in the Melbourne Argus, tells us he was the 'dearly loved husband of Lydia, and loving father of Frank, Ern, Louie (Mrs Spencer), Nellie (Mrs W. Brown), Thelma (Mrs Alan, Blackburn), Florrie (Mrs J. Cameron), Phil, and Rob (A.I.F.)'. The 1949 electoral roll has a Lydia Annie Brown living at 166 Gladstone Street South Melbourne along with a Robert James Brown, fitter. The Department of Veterans' Affairs WW2 nominal roll shows that VX69911 Private Robert James Brown who was born at Westburn in Victoria on 15 August 1922, enlisted in the 2nd AIF at Caulfield on 29 December 1941. He was then living at East Warburton and gave as his NOK his mother Lydia. Rob was discharged from the Army on 19 December 1945 at which time he was serving in 2 Field Regiment. Her death notice, published in the Melbourne Age, tells us Lydia Anne Brown died at South Melbourne on 15 August 1952 adding she was the 'beloved wife of the late Albert Joseph Brown, and loving mother of Frank, Ernest. Louisa, Nell, Thelma, Florence, Philip and Robert. Late of East Warburton and Walhalla'.
Also originally shared by Marjorie Brown, this photo was taken in 1966 and shows some of the Brown/Brown-Sarre family members and their
spouses and children. Rear row (L/R): Gary Brown, George Spencer (husband of Louisa), Louisa Spencer, Jack Cameron (husband of Florence),
Beryl Spencer (daughter of Louisa and George), Phillip, Bill Brown (husband of Lydia Ellen). Front row: Lorna Brown (wife of Robert),
Meryl Brown (wife of Phillip), Lydia Ellen, Robert, Florence Cameron, Jean Brown (wife of Ern) and Wendy Brown (daughter of Phillip and Meryl).
The Australian electoral rolls show Albert Ernest (Ern) Brown, who was then working as a labourer, was living at Alexandra near Lake Eildon in northeastern Victoria at the time of his marriage to Jean Tulloch. The 1937 roll has he and Jean at No 2 Mill at Rubicon to the south of Alexandra. They then moved to East Warburton although the electoral rolls indicate Ern also spent part of the war years in Melbourne where he lived with his mother-in-law, Rosina Olive Tulloch, and worked as a munitions worker. The 1949 and 1954 rolls show Ern was still employed as a munitions worker and he and Jean were living at 22 Nixon Street in the Melbourne suburb of Sunshine. According to the Victorian index of bdms an Albert Ernest Brown, aged 59 and born at Walhalla, died at Footscray in 1966. The Greater Melbourne Cemeteries website shows he was cremated at the Altona Memorial Park and is memorialised there in the Court of Meditation (Section LG, Garden Bed B, Position 13). The Australian electoral rolls have Jean still living at 22 Nixon Street at the time of the 1967, 1968 and 1972 elections. The 'MacDonald-Ross family Tree' on Ancestry tells us she married a farmer, Albert David Bohun (1922-90), at Yarrogan in 1974. They were living on Albert's farm at Gundowring in 1977 before retiring to Wodonga where Albert died in 1990 and Jean in 1997. Jenny Tapungao tells us Jean and Albert David ('Ab') had no children (although 'Ab' did have children from his first marriage). She adds that Jean and she and Albert Ernest Brown had four children as follows:
1) James Ernest ('Jim') Brown-Sarre who who was born at Alexandra on 17 October 1936 and married Aileen Margaret Hill in 1959. The electoral rolls show James, who worked as a PMG technician and technical officer, and Aileen were living in the Melbourne suburb of Sunbury in 1963 and at Red Cliffs near Mildura in the 1970s. Jenny Tapungao tells us they have three children and five grandchildren;
2) Vivian Albert ('Viv') Brown-Sarre (1938-2018) who was born at Alexandra, worked as an electrical fitter and welder and was twice married. The Australian electoral rolls show he and his first wife, Jean Blackley Paterson who he married in 1958, lived at Yallourn in Gippsland until the 1980s when they separated and Jean went to Iive at Sunshine in Melbourne. Her tribute in the Melbourne Herald Sun tells us Viv's second wife, Renate Brown-Sarre 'passed away peacefully at St. Vincent's Hospital on May 17, 2006 aged 67. Loved and loving wife of Viv. Much loved mother and mother-in-law of Monica and Stuart, Rolf and Debra, Giddy and Barry. Loved Nana of Nathan, Simone, Mathew, Luke, Courtney, Tristan, Joshua, Mark, Shelby and Jake. Great Nana of Shanaya' (20 May 2006). Viv died at Warragul in Gippsland twelve years later. His tribute in the same newspaper reads: 'Brown-Sarre, Vivian 15/05/1938 - 02/10/2018. Died peacefully at Coorinda Lodge. Warragul. Loving Father of Ron, Jeff and Debbie. Step father of Rolf. Father-in-Law of Debbie, Zlat, Cheryl and a beloved Grandfather' (4 October 2018). Jenny Tapungao tells us he and Jean have three children and six grandchildren;
3) Fay Elizabeth Brown (1939-2022) - Jenny's mother - was born at Alexandra and married a bank officer, Barry James Murrihy (1942-2007) in Melbourne in 1966. According to the 'Allen' family tree on Ancestry Barry was the son of James Adam Murrihy (1918-84) and Grace Jean Creek (1918-2015) who were married in Melbourne in 1941. Barry Murrihy died in Melbourne in 2007. His tribute, published in the Melbourne Herald Sun on 23 July 2007, reads: 'MURRIHY - Barry James. 5.3.1942 - 2.7.2007. Passed away peacefully at the Royal Melbourne Hospital. Loved husband of Fay. Father and father-in-law of Glenn and Samantha, Tim, Jenny and Mark. Grandpa of Aleesha and Shalee and Kai'. Jenny Tapungao tells us Glenn has three children (one deceased), Tim two and she four; and
4) Jill Yvonne Brown was born at Richmond in Melbourne on 6 November 1941 and married Colin McCrae Bish in Victoria in 1961. The electoral rolls show they lived at Warburton in Gippsland in Victoria until around 1970 when they moved to Mareeba inland from Cairns in northern Queensland. Jenny Tapungao tells us they have two children one of whom is deceased.
Jean and Rose Tulloch and Jean Brown nee Tulloch, on the left, with two of her Brown in-laws,
Lydia Ellen (Nelly) Brown and Phillip Brown-Sarre.
Vivian Albert ('Viv') and Jean Blackley Brown-Sarre nee Paterson with
their their first child Ron in Gippsland in around 1959.
2. John Alexander James Tulloch (1919-82). Born at Daylesford in central Victoria on 6 October 1919, John was living with his mother in Melbourne when he enlisted in the Australian Army at Preston on 16 April 1940. The Department of Veterans Affairs' Nominal Roll for World War 2 tells us he served as a gunner in the 2nd Medium Artillery Regiment but provides no details of where he served or when he was discharged. The 1942 electoral roll shows John working as a railway employee and living with his mother at 21 Charlotte Street in Richmond. Three years later he married Pearl Joyce Pope the 'only daughter of Mrs Pope of Hoddle Street West Richmond and the Iate Mr E. Pope of Yarragon' (Melbourne Herald, 25 December 1945). Joyce's father was Ernest James Pope who was born at Yarragon in west Gippsland in 1883 and died there in 1942 (his remains are interred in the Moe Cemetery). Joyce's mother was Agnes Pearl Glenister (1889-1956) who was born at Prahran where she married Ernest in 1922 and afterwards lived with him at Yarragon.
Two photos of John Tulloch taken sometime in the 1930s. In the one on the right he is with his cousins, Les Cheeseman and Fred Stafford.
Following Ernest's death in 1942, Pearl returned to Melbourne where, at the time of the 1949 election, she and their only son, Kenneth William (Ken) Pope, who was born at Yarragon in 1926, were living with Rosina Olive Tulloch at 21 Charlotte Street in Richmond. The following year Ken, who had served in the Royal Australian Navy from November 1944 until July 1946, moved to Hobart where he married a local girl, Betty Celia Hall, at St David's Cathedral in 1950. The 1954 roll has Ken, who was working as a carpenter, and Betty living at Moonah in north Hobart. Agnes was still living at Richmond although no longer with Rosina. The Victorian index of bdms shows a Pearl Pope, aged 65, died in Melbourne in 1956. Her father was said to be William 'Glenuster' and her mother Jane Fisher (who were married in Victoria in 1888). Pearl was cremated in the Fawkner Memorial Cemetery and is memorialised in the Rose Garden there (No.2 Companion Roses Garden Bed X, Position 25). Ken and Betty Pope lived all their lives in Tasmania, Betty dying there in 2013 and Ken in 2020. His tribute in the Hobart Mercury tells us he 'passed away peacefully in his 94th year' and was the 'Beloved Husband of Betty (dec) Dearly loved and loving father of Ros and Ken, Alison and Rod, and Jan. Grandpa of Alastair and Brooke, James, Rowan and Lisa, Anita and Dave, Jeremy and Susie, and Sophie. Great Grandpa of William, Thomas, Nolan and Emily'.
At the time of the 1949 election, John and Pearl Joyce Tulloch were at Tallygaroopna near Shepparton, where John was working as an assistant station master. They were both registered as living c/- the Railway Station at Tynong near Pakenham in 1954 and at Yarragon in 1963 and 1968 (John was the stationmaster there). The 1972 roll has them at 14 Loch Street in Yarragon together with a Janice Joy Tulloch, teacher. By the time of the 1977 election John, who was now an inspector, and Pearl had moved to Melbourne and were living at 7/39 Zetland Road in Mount Albert. They were both still there in 1980. The Ryerson Index shows a John Alexander James Tulloch died at the Freemason's Hospital in Melbourne on 1 March 1982. His death notices published in the Melbourne Age the following day tell us John was the 'loving husband of Joyce. Much loved father of Jan and John, father-in-law of Brian and Sally. Adored pa-pa of Joanne, Scott and Jane'. A second notice adds he was the 'Brother-in-law of Ken and Betty and loving uncle of Roslyn and Ken, Alison and Rodney and Janet'. We believe he is buried in the Burwood Cemetery although that is still to be confirmed. According to the 'Kelly Morse Family Tree' on Ancestry, Joyce re-married at Box Hill in Melbourne in 1993, to a World War 2 veteran, Ronald James Morse (1922-2000). She died at Faversham House in the Melbourne suburb of Canterbury on 1 September 2015. Her tributes in the Herald Sun tell us she was the 'Dearly loved wife of John Tulloch (dec) and Ron (dec). Adored mother of Jan (dec) and John. Cherished grandmother of Jo and mother-in-law of Brian . . . mother-in- law of Sally and Loving Nan to Scott and Annaliese, Jane and Rob. Treasured Great Grandma to Lachie'. Like her first husband John, she is buried in the Burwood Cemetery (Lawn 1A, Grave 22B). The photo on the right is of John Tulloch and his niece, Fay Elizabeth Brown at her marriage to Brian James Murrihy in 1966. Fay's daughter, Jenny Tapungao - who supplied us with the photo - tells us 'Uncle John gave Mum away as her father passed away six months before the wedding'.
As their respective death notices indicate, John and Joyce Tulloch had two children: Janice Joy and John Ernest Tulloch. Jan, as she was known as, married Brian Michael Gaffy in Melbourne in 1972. The 1977 and 1980 electoral rolls show Brian, an 'engineer assistant', and Jan, a teacher, living at 45 Warburton Road in the Melbourne suburb of Canterbury. According to the Ryerson Index, Jan Gaffy died at the Royal Melbourne Hospital on 7 March 1986. Her tributes in the Melbourne Age read in part: 'Gaffy (Tulloch) Jan - Dearly treasured wife of Brian and wonderful loving mother to Jo' and 'Jan - a special caring sister who we admired for her brave struggle . . . John, Sal, Scott and Jane'. The Melbourne Metropolitan Cemeteries website shows she was interred in the Templestowe Cemetery on 11 March 1986 (Mullens Lawn, Row E, Grave 41). John and Joyce's only son, John Ernest Tulloch and his wife Sally Ann, teacher, were living in the Melbourne suburb of Canterbury at the time of the 1977 and 1980 elections. We believe that John, a licensed surveyor and Member of the Institution of Surveyors Australia, served as Surveyor General of Victoria between 2003 and 2017.
Also supplied by Jenny Tapungao, this photo was taken in September 1958 and shows (L/R): Joyce, John and Rose Tulloch,
Jean and Ern Brown and Joyce and John's son, John Ernest (Johnnie) Tulloch.
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